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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 11:17 pm 
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For some odd reason Cross linking to Mike Judge to talk to Alex Jones (and seeing an altered B&B clip) made me think of 2 South Park eps with an evil Mickey Mouse in it (one being Obama Wins! and I just love that scene where Obama is announced the winner and the baby starts crying while his big brother tries to comfort him). I thought I'd share this one (it's South Park, do I really need to give a warning?) because it struck me as likely true (and also one of the better eps, IMO, but then being something of a Disneytard I understand what they're making fun of and realize this is very likely true):



But if 20 minutes is just too much and just want to see purity rings explained in brief then just click here (takes very near to the end of the ep):

http://youtu.be/JC31Svov2vs?t=17m35s

ETA: it occurs to me Deref probably never heard of purity rings, so here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purity_ring

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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 7:02 pm 
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Rotfl.

Thanks, Dervish - that's a hoot.

Do you remember that video that was around a few years ago - a spoof promoting buttsex as a way of saving your virginity? I've looked for it but never been able to find it again.

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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 9:59 pm 
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I still don't have any sound, so it's very possible, even likely, that something is going over my head here. I hope all this is not just another case of something I have been too familiar with and consciously aware of for maybe closer to fifty than forty years now: a hatred and contempt for goodness and virtue as such.

"One of the wise and awful truths which this brown-paper art reveals, is this, that white is a color. It is not a mere absence of color; it is a shining and affirmative thing, as fierce as red, as definite as black. When, so to speak, your pencil grows red-hot, it draws roses; when it grows white-hot, it draws stars.

And one of the two or three defiant verities of the best religious morality, of real Christianity, for example, is exactly this same thing; the chief assertion of religious morality is that white is a color.

Virtue is not the absence of vices or the avoidance of moral dangers; virtue is a vivid and separate thing, like pain or a particular smell.

Mercy does not mean not being cruel, or sparing people revenge or punishment; it means a plain and positive thing like the sun, which one has either seen or not seen.

Chastity does not mean abstention from sexual wrong; it means something flaming, like Joan of Arc." -- G.K. Chesterton


My parents were married, until death did them part, for 65 years and some days, faithfully as far as I know, if not always happily. And without doubt much of the unhappiness they knew was my doing.

My father's wedding ring (which I hadn't the heart to take from him) was stolen at the nursing home. But I still have my late mother's wedding ring, and her engagement ring too. I do not consider these to be contemptible objects, with no more meaning or value than whatever they could be sold or pawned for.

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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 2:37 am 
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^^

Not getting on the subject of purity rings as I shared this for a laugh, not to bang my head against the wall and/or nitpick & quibble.

This ep actually slams Disney more than anything. Even the JoBros (Jonas Brothers) got off with a light roasting. The short & sweet is that Disney is much more concerned with showing "moral" entertainment than Nick (though it's amazing how much crap the writers manage to get past the censors before Disney catches it and clamps down on it). Nick is Nickelodeon, btw, Disney's biggest rival on TV. (DreamWorks gets mentioned by Mickey as their rival in the ep, but they'd actually been taken over by Disney a few months before this aired.) So many parents like it, including Christian families (though some of the more extreme fundies reject it as promoting witchcraft and rife with subliminals) who consider it more wholesome. But kids being kids, especially with money and adoring fans in places like Hollywood, tend to get a bit wild and this upsets the parents who fear their kids will imitate them (and also many girls, especially tweens, are really vigilant against "sluts" to the point that wearing a bikini while lying on a bed or touching a pole for more than 5 seconds will get them reaching for the metaphoric pitchforks). Miley, while well meaning, is an attention whore with a trollish sense of humor (though don't get me wrong, I do like her) and I can only imagine how many times Disney has wanted to strangle her for riling up both tween fans and a great many parents (though some moms & tweens are such hypocrites and/or plagued by double standards, like when a bunch condemned 17-year-old Miley for wearing a tight shirt "selling sex" while also getting wet for 17-year-old Taylor Lautner taking off his shirt in one of the Twilight movies at the same time). This gets especially distressing to parents when its BOYS who their tween girls are screaming over (sometimes even going to the concerts without vigilant adult supervision), especially when they're in a band (and everyone knows what debauched freaks they are). So in order to placate parental fears and even expand their audience base Disney had the JoBros wear "purity rings" which promised puritan-like behavior and thus could be trusted AND even serve as role models, if the boys they love promote such values then they'll also pursue boys (so parents believe) who also claim to hold similar values. In short, giving purity rings to the JoBros (and later others, including girls) made it possible for Disney to sell sex (at least infatuation, think of it as like porn/erotica for tweens, but in disguise) to good Christian daughters.

And it's not just the customers, but it helped soothe the fears of parents of their precious stars (which would cost Disney millions if parents pulled them from production). Like when Selena Gomez (who, IIRC, debuted for Disney in one of the Spy Kids movies and then became a character on Hannah Montana--which the JoBros also guest starred in, btw--before getting her own place of honor in Wizards of Waverly Place) joined Disney she was given a purity ring which made her conservative Christian mother feel better who had been frightened that Hollywood would corrupt her innocent daughter, but since Disney got her to wear it then Disney would obviously safeguard her moral character (right?). But then Selena, who was getting closer and closer with the Bieb, ended up taking it off...and her parents flipped out, or so it was said by the gossip mags (but by then she was 18).

So that's what is meant when Mickey says in the ep that he can do anything he wants, including in selling sex to young girls, as long as he makes sure the JoBros wear purity rings, because people are fooled way too easily.

Btw, when someone in the South Park ep explained the purity ring meant they weren't to have sex until married one character did ask, "Isn't that a wedding ring?"

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"Life in Lubbock, Texas, taught me two things: One is that God loves you and you're going to burn in hell. The other is that sex is the most awful, filthy thing on earth and you should save it for someone you love." ~Butch Hancock

"A penis was not meant to go into a man's butt, but rather a womens." --excerpt from an illiterate rant to a gay rights page

"if you consider the fact that cats and dogs are of the same species you would still find it odd if a cat acted like a dog now wouldn't you" --from the same rant as above


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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 2:51 am 
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Deref wrote:
Do you remember that video that was around a few years ago - a spoof promoting buttsex as a way of saving your virginity? I've looked for it but never been able to find it again.


No, but there was a Family Guy ep where everyone was trying to be "pure" by guys screwing girls in their ear (even Peter took to trying to screw his wife in her ear which really pissed her off).

But there are plenty of women who take it anally to preserve their virginity. There's a YT vid (I'll try to find it again if you want) where a guy explained how he was hired to do porn and a woman refused to do normal coitus saying she was a virgin and "only took it in the back." And there was also one book by a woman who said when she was younger she was a holier than thou Christian who loved slut-shaming girls for not being virgins but she herself engaged in a lot of oral & anal, but as long as she was "technically" a virgin she felt she had every right, even duty, to publicly hate on the impure girls who were no longer virgins (even if they had sex a lot less, and a lot less casually, than her).

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"Life in Lubbock, Texas, taught me two things: One is that God loves you and you're going to burn in hell. The other is that sex is the most awful, filthy thing on earth and you should save it for someone you love." ~Butch Hancock

"A penis was not meant to go into a man's butt, but rather a womens." --excerpt from an illiterate rant to a gay rights page

"if you consider the fact that cats and dogs are of the same species you would still find it odd if a cat acted like a dog now wouldn't you" --from the same rant as above


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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 5:53 pm 
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:lol: one thing you have to say about stupidity: it's incredibly funny.

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Dervish wrote:
Deref wrote:
Do you remember that video that was around a few years ago - a spoof promoting buttsex as a way of saving your virginity? I've looked for it but never been able to find it again.


No, but there was a Family Guy ep where everyone was trying to be "pure" by guys screwing girls in their ear (even Peter took to trying to screw his wife in her ear which really pissed her off).

But there are plenty of women who take it anally to preserve their virginity. There's a YT vid (I'll try to find it again if you want) where a guy explained how he was hired to do porn and a woman refused to do normal coitus saying she was a virgin and "only took it in the back." And there was also one book by a woman who said when she was younger she was a holier than thou Christian who loved slut-shaming girls for not being virgins but she herself engaged in a lot of oral & anal, but as long as she was "technically" a virgin she felt she had every right, even duty, to publicly hate on the impure girls who were no longer virgins (even if they had sex a lot less, and a lot less casually, than her).



Bill Maher has a very funny bit on that in one of his comedy performances:



"I love this! The Republicans have managed to create an entire generation of apple-cheeked young girls saying to their boyfriends 'Oh, no, I'm saving myself for Mister Right - f**k me in the ass! Go ahead!'"

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